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Slot machines that you can actually beat!

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By Frank Scoblete

I am going to share with you some of the machines that my fellow columnist Jerry “Stickman” and I discovered to be player-favorable at certain times. What do I mean by “player-favorable”? Simply that the slots player can get a real mathematical edge over the casino if he plays these machines correctly.

Yes, these are called Advantage-Play machines and are excerpted from my book, Slots Conquest: How to Beat the Slot Machines!

With each machine I will explain when the machine becomes favorable to the player and how much money to have in your bankroll to play the machine.

Full disclosure: Atlantic City had no advantage-play machines. However, casinos in Nevada, the Midwest and Mississippi did when we scouted these territories. Some of these machines are somewhat rare. In short, you must go to a casino and check out the floor to see if any are there. Okay, so you have to do some work!

Before I get into individual machines, first some important thoughts:

This type of advantage-slot machine is similar to progressive slot machines in the sense that something builds. It is not a jackpot dollar amount, though. Instead, something else builds. It could be coins, hats, gems, fruit or even firecrackers. It can be almost anything.

The pool of items builds when a special symbol or some combination of symbols appears on the reels. This can be one particular symbol, a combination of symbols, or even the absence of symbols sometimes called blanks or ghosts. For example, if a cherry appears in one of the nine positions that are visible on the reels, a cherry is added to the corresponding section of a pie. Each different machine has its own criteria for saving.

Once a certain combination of symbols appears or a section of the collection area is filled, a bonus is paid that is proportionate to the number of hats, gems, fruit, or whatever symbol that’s been banked. For example, a diamond is added to one of three columns corresponding to the reel that contains a diamond. When a column is filled with diamonds, a bonus of 10 credits is collected and the column is emptied.

The more things that are in the collection, the better chance the game might be positive. And I will show you which games can become positive as well as when they become positive. It will give you the best method to play them and let you know how much money you should have available once you decide to play a given advantage machine. A proper bankroll is absolutely necessary to give yourself the best chance to win.

Once you have found a game that has a positive expectation, there are certain rules you must follow to maximize your wins. Some may seem obvious, but it is amazing how quickly one can forget about discipline when one is playing and winning. The following rules for play are not suggestions—they are requirements. They must be followed if you are going to maintain an advantage.

1) Only play when you have an advantage.

This rule applies while playing any casino game. You must recognize that playing without an advantage negates any wins you might have in the short run. If the house has the edge, then you will ultimately lose your money. It is hard work to win money from a casino.

2) Have the required bankroll in your pocket.

Once you have determined that you have an advantage at a machine, you must play until you collect the bonus or jackpot. Lady Luck can be fleeting. It may take a long time before you hit the right combination to collect—but collect you must or you will have wasted your money.

3) Once a machine becomes positive, it remains positive until someone collects the bonus and then the collection is reset and the positive machine is no longer positive.

Generally, the more you play the more positive the machine becomes. Can you imagine your frustration if the following happened? You deposit the last $20 you have in your pocket (or purse) into a positive game. You play and play and you don’t collect. You play the entire $20 and still don’t collect. Grumbling, you get up from the machine; go to your room to get some more money. When you return to the machine, you find that the jackpot has been collected. It is no longer positive. By not having sufficient money in your pocket, you not only lost your chance at the bonus; you blew $20. If you left to get more money before playing, someone else may have still gotten the bonus, but it would have cost you nothing!

4) You must play until you collect the prize and if you don’t do this then you are purposely giving up your advantage.

Make sure you have enough money with you—in your pocket! This is not like playing a regular slot machine where you flee once you have started to lose a good portion of whatever your session stake is. Not on these machines. You should have the proper amount of money to assure that you win the game.

5) Quit playing when you no longer have an advantage.

If you try to build up the symbols, instead of letting the average slot player build them up, you are just a regular slot player yourself and you then will have no advantage.

6) Once you collect the bonus, verify if you still have an advantage.

There are times when you will continue to have an edge even after collecting a bonus. You should know these times on which machines. If you do not have the edge, then quit playing and move on. Most games lose the advantage once you collect the bonus; most—but not all. When you collect, look at the game. Do you still have an advantage? You will have a strong urge to continue playing—but don’t—unless the machine is still positive.

Six simple rules that you must follow to assure you are playing with an edge and playing properly with that edge.

Next issue: The Machines to Play!

Frank Scoblete’s newest books are Confessions of a Wayward Catholic! and Slots Conquest. Available from Amazon.com, or at your favorite bookstore, or by mail-order by calling 1-800-944-0406. Join Frank on his web site at www.frankscoblete.com.

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CrystalMath

That's fine, can you please explain what is wrong with what I said?


You said so many incorrect things, it's tough to know where to start, but let's focus on this for now:
Jackpots and bonuses are considered part of the game. No separate approval. You submit the entire game at once.
The onus is on you to provide regulations that show otherwise.
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CrystalMath

It means my competitors are so stupid that they have a flawless slot design & can't design a side game that doesn't allow for A.P. play!!!


Companies intentionally make games that have variable states, some of which pay over 100%. Players also enjoy them.
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PokerGrinder
I won’t give you any info because that would hurt a lot of people but you’re 100% wrong on this. Slot machines are very beatable, I do it every day for large amounts of money.
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Mission146

Thank you so much for being the only person here to answer my question effectively.
I'd like everyone's attention please. I've been correct about slot machines this entire time. Everyone here has a misconception that slot games have advantage play when in accordance with how gaming regulations see it, slot games are 100% A.P.!!! Did you know that the jackpots or bonuses on these machines are not considered part of the slot game???
Legally any mini-game is a separate entity from the main game & you must file for its own gaming application approval & it's own mathematical analysis from a lab! You are using the terms incorrectly. Even all the side features that can give you free play games are kit considered a part of the slot game. There are no advantages playing the slot game, just the extra staff that the company added to the game can be exploited because they need to make it unique & stand out from the crowd.


Everything on a slot machine makes up the machine's overall return-to-player, the inverse of which is known as the House Edge.
Every gambling jurisdiction in the United States, in terms of Commercial Casinos, has a minimum permissible return-to-player for slot machines. Perhaps ironically, the lowest of these is Nevada at 75%.
Everything that happens on that machine, whether it be Free Games, mini games or other features contributes to the overall long-term expected return-to-player of those machines. If you only counted the, 'Main game,' the return-to-player would be low enough that most of the machines you describe would be illegal, pursuant to the applicable laws that govern minimum returns.
In summation, if those things were not considered, 'Part of the slot game,' then the return-to-player on the slot game would be sufficiently low to render the slot game itself illegal. Because all of these things ARE considered, 'Part of the slot game,' the slot game is sufficient to meet minimum return-to-player requirements.
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CrystalMath

Everyone here has a misconception that slot games have advantage play when in accordance with how gaming regulations see it, slot games are 100% A.P.!!!


I suppose you meant to say that per gaming regulations, slot games are not AP.
Gaming regulations do not care if a player can gain an advantage. Their concern is what the game returns over time, not to any individual player. It is entirely possible for a game to return 90% over time, but also be in a state that returns over 100% periodically.
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Mission146

Does anyone here realize what this means??? It means my competitors are so stupid that they have a flawless slot design & can't design a side game that doesn't allow for A.P. play!!! 🤑 This is great news for me, I always thought the casino industry was soft when it came to game design but there is no excuse for so many companies to be putting out A.P. plausable machines lol I guarantee you all that it's not possible for A.P. with Royal Slots & my program already comes with jackpots.


It's not difficult to design a slot game that can never be played at a positive expected return to player. The majority of slot games cannot be played, even temporarily, at a positive expectation.
Slot machine companies put out A.P. plausible machines because they often end up being popular and make the casinos, and by extension the manufacturers, a lot of money. Most players do not know how to only play the machines when they are in an advantageous state, or simply don't care, but enjoy the variable state features all the same.
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USpapergames

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You said so many incorrect things, it's tough to know where to start, but let's focus on this for now:
Jackpots and bonuses are considered part of the game. No separate approval. You submit the entire game at once.
The onus is on you to provide regulations that show otherwise.


You misunderstood me, yes you have to submit the entire game for approval but the slot games that are being submitted are exactly identical in how they operate & the only differences to these machines are the side games that are added. All slot games have been approved by everyone gaming control board for decades, it's the side games that are added to the machines which are unique and require approval, even though the same game mechanics for the slot games haven't changed & again have passed these regulations for decades. Is that correct it am I wrong?
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USpapergames
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Companies intentionally make games that have variable states, some of which pay over 100%. Players also enjoy them.


I was told that the majority of the casino operators don't change slot machine payouts because the regulations to do so are so extreme. But regardless, a casino purposefully setting its payouts for a positive return does not count as A.P. play! Advantage play is something that the player does to gain an edge. That is the exact definition. What your saying is that sometimes casinos just give players an edge which would kit be considered A.P. play! This thread is only discussing A. P. slot play.
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CrystalMath
Thanks for this post from:

You misunderstood me, yes you have to submit the entire game for approval but the slot games that are being submitted are exactly identical in how they operate & the only differences to these machines are the side games that are added. All slot games have been approved by everyone gaming control board for decades, it's the side games that are added to the machines which are unique and require approval, even though the same game mechanics for the slot games haven't changed & again have passed these regulations for decades. Is that correct it am I wrong?


AdvantageAlthough it may be possible to reuse a base game and add different features, it is very rare. In fact, in hundreds of games, I've never flat out re-used a base game.
This may have been more prevalent when most games were 3 reel physical spinning reel slots, because there wasn't all that much you could do with a base game.
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USpapergames

I won’t give you any info because that would hurt a lot of people but you’re 100% wrong on this. Slot machines are very beatable, I do it every day for large amounts of money.

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I understand the need for secrecy. I promise you I don't play slot machines, I am a professional poker play for almost a decade now & look down on A.P. slot play. But I am a game designer & this info is very valuable to me. So if encourage your support & I you could help me by sending me a cleavage message that would mean a lot, thank you ;)
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